Is there really a point to it all?

[Aragil]

I'm tired of constantly running the rat race of a female relationship, women can be so stupid sometimes. You be the nicest you can to them, and they still don't want to get physical with you, thats reserved for the -------s. It just wants me to really use my strength for once and kick someones @ss.

[Theodred]

Yeah. Pretty much.

[Poguemahone]

There is a great point Aragil. I dont like the idea of a girl just pushing you aside either, no matter how nice you are to them, but it happens. Its called waiting.

[Aragil]

I'm tired of waiting :(

[Poguemahone]

Everyone waits for stuff throughout their lives. This is one of the situations Aragil.

[Arathorn III]

You might hate me for saying it, but...you're only 14, man! You don't even have to be thinking of this stuff yet. :eek

[Ditz]

Dude, guys aren't amazing either. And it's not nice at all when guys just want to do you an' lose you. I don't know about any other girls but I want a guy who cares for me and who I get on with. Seriously, if you want girls to take you seriously, try and focus a little less on the physical side to a relationship. It's not all about sex you know.

[Poguemahone]

Aragil, look for personality and not the hottests girls out there. If you go for looks, you will never be happy. Unless look match an amazing personality. And I know people like that.

[Ditz]

Thank you Balin. It's nice to know some guys look deeper.

[Arathorn III]

I agree with you, Ditz, mightily. No, guys aren't all like that, believe me. I hope I'm not one of the bad ones. Guys like that aren't going to likely find a good relationship unless they smarten up.

Balin, great points too, soo true, although nothing wrong with pretty either. ;) Some girls are just lucky enough to exhibit both excellent spiritual and physical traits.

[Poguemahone]

If you can find a girl that is pretty and has a great personality, chances are that she is already taken. I learnt that twice.

[Arathorn III]

Not always.

Remember someone has to be the first one. ;)

But it's not about being "taken," you know...that's kind of demeaning, though I know you didn't mean it like that. Girls are always in charge. If anyone is taken it's the guy. ;)

If you want to have a real relationship, IMO, you have to care about the person for the person, irregardless of being "physical" or whatever. That's just not the important thing, sorry. You shouldn't have any ulterior motives in your agenda; just the interests of that person. Love is never a tool, or a means to an end.

And Aragil, don't worry, I'm not saying you're like all that - just giving general advice. ;)

[Poguemahone]

You do bring up a good point. The fact that the girls wear the pants. (old expression, still works) I can see that, but more or less now, its being balanced out. Although, I have been out of the loop for a long time, but when I was in it, it was an equal partnership.

And Aragil, dont think that since you are 14, you need a girlfriend. To be honest, the only girlfriend that I had was when I had just turned 16, and that only lasted 2 months. Take your time, patience is a virtue. Just wait.

[Ditz]

If you can find a girl that is pretty and has a great personality, chances are that she is already taken

Oi, I've not got a boyfriend, so which am I ugly, or with a rubbish personality? :p

Girls are always in charge. If anyone is taken it's the guy

No way. I know with me at least I end up going stupid and do anything he asks. I know some of my female friends are like that too.

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

Girls are always in charge. If anyone is taken it's the guy

I completely disagree! It's hardly ever that way, guys are more stronger and to the point than girls in general.

*hugs Gil*

Hey, i think you're a great guy. Even if i dont like you that way, doesnt mean that some one else doesn't. And at 14, you cant expect anything physical. Did something happen to set off this sudden anger?

[Arathorn III]

Guys are? Well, maybe. But I still think girls are in charge, somehow or other, or at the very least, guys will do anything for a girl when in love, or, failing all that, I know I would. :)

[Ditz]

I dunno, guys are often more in charge, but I reckon girls know how to hurt guys better. And they're better at arguments. As Dylan Moran (the legend) said "Women have these stealth bombers while men still have their dusty old world war 1 tanks. "I told you I'd be home late on Tuesday. I told you. I remember it coming from my mouth. I remember saying it." "That may be, but why is the fridge door open?"" lol, the man is great. Sorry, off track. The point is both sides feel they're disadvantages.

And Aragil, seriously, give it time.

[Schloi]

its all luck, thats my guess, finding the right girl has to do with saying the right things at the right time, and of course, the right time is hard to fine
personality is most important, don't let a beautiful pair of eyes and lips fool you into trusting a girl, if you do that its a sure thing that you'll be betrayed, because hot lips like to roam
thats it, just keep trying, and hope for the best, good luck

[Barahir]

I do not have a comment.

[Theodred]

Likewise.

[Aragil]

*sigh* Just really emo lately, hopefully a certain someone will accept my offer to the dance. And Ditz...its clear you don't know me one bit :P

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

You think you're emo? Wait until you start throwing things and crying at songs by the Darkness.

[FlamingoSoHotRightNow]

That's an interesting picutre...

[Ditz]

And Ditz...its clear you don't know me one bit

Did you read your first post? It was all about physical aspects, I thought it was a little odd for you, but whatever.

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

That's an interesting picutre...

:p

Its quite amusing from a distance.

[Aragil]

No...get physical as in engage in making out. Sure, I love the personality, but thats for being friends! Besides, I wouldn't date a girl I wasn't friends with.

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

So you what you really mean is you wish girls would kiss you???? Some people arent ready for what might seem like such a small thing to you. Some people don't even like hugging! Everyone's different.

[Schloi]

well, what I think he's saying is that he's looking for someone who is ready, and he wants to know if there is a point
I've been wondering the same thing myself the past few weeks

[Theodred]

Still though, you dudes are better off than I am. I mean, I've never even had one girlfriend. :(

[shadowfax05]

Theo that is really sad

[Schloi]

he might be better off, it might be better not to know what your missing

[X Rogue]

Or it might be that he's missed someone who would be a terrible girlfriend, at that. Still, it's not happymaking.

[Theodred]

Well, there's not much use for speculation. I try not to think about it....but it's hard.

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

I always think it's the nice people who have to wait the longest

[Barahir]

*sigh*

[Finarfin]

I'm tired of constantly running the rat race of a female relationship, women can be so stupid sometimes. You be the nicest you can to them, and they still don't want to get physical with you, thats reserved for the -------s. It just wants me to really use my strength for once and kick someones @ss.

So some girl won't sleep with you so you feel like slapping her around.
Thats nice.

I'd recommend some councilling.

[Theodred]

I always think it's the nive people who have to wait the longest
What kind of connotation does the word "nive" have?

[Barahir]

Nice. Gotta live typos. :p

[Ditz]

It's usually the nice people that wait the longest, because they're often shyer than the more boisterous, annoying people. Therefore they won't really ask, or anything.

[Schloi]

not true
the reason nice people have to wait longer is that they don't take advantage of people, and don't want to hurt someone by pushing a relationship(voice of experience)

[Daughter of Mirkwood]

What kind of connotation does the word "nive" have?


I think you'll find that nive is a complicated form of a word decended from the orginal stem of 'nice'.

[Aragil]

I agree that the nicest people have to wait the longest.

[Ditz]

That's very generalisable really. Some nice people don't wait.